IS THE FINAL JUDGMENT BEFORE
THE FINAL RESSURECTION?

Here is my logic for believing that the FINAL JUDGMENT has to be before the FINAL RESSURECTION!


First let me ask you some questions:

1. Do you agree that when we are resurrected that we
receive our FINAL eternal IMORTAL body of flesh and bone (but
not blood)?

2. Do you agree that the body we receive when we are
resurrected is consistent with the type kingdom we
will go to (i.e. Celestial, terrestial or telestial)?

3. If we are going to be ressurected with a body from
that kingdom, how would God know which type of body to
give us in that ressurection if we have not alreay been
judged?

4. If you have already been resurrected with a
Terrestial body, what would be the point of a final
judgment to see if you are worthy to go to the
Celestial Kingdom or not when you already have a
terrestial eternal imortal body?

See the point?

I know that 99% of all plan of salvation charts
published BY THE CHURCH MEMBERS show the Ressurection
first (I HAVE NO IDEA WHY) Even the new missionary
lesson book had it that way until I pointed this out
to them, then they changed it (or rather took that
chart out).

After many years of searhing, I finally found a chart PUBLISHED
BY THE CHRUCH which shows it the correct way. I
thought I had it on my web page at
www.cordellvail.com/epistels I will have to go look again.

You can see the Ensign article on the Internet at:

http://library.lds.org/nxt/gateway.dll?f=templates$fn=default.htm

If you do not have that Ensign (Sept 2001) I place a picture of the chart below
from the article so you could see it. The church web page
does not print the graphics (I have no idea why)

The article is:
Teaching Our Children the Plan of Salvation
By Robert England Lee
Parents can present Heavenly Father’s “great plan of
happiness” in simple yet powerful ways.
Robert England Lee, “Teaching Our Children the Plan of
Salvation,” Ensign, Sept. 2001, 32-37




THAT IS THE ONLY CHART I HAVE FOUND PUBLISHED BY THE
CHURCH THAT SHOWS THE JUDGMENT AFTER THE RESSURECTION.

I would very much welcome your thoughts on the matter
and why you feel that the resurrection is before the
final judgment.

Cordell Vail
Seattle, Wa

REBUTTLES BY OTHERS:

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19 Nov 2006

Brother, we will be resurrected before we are judged.

:-)
John Knowlton

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13 Jan 2007

Cordell,

Thank you for your response. I do see your logic, however, there are a few references I would submit for your consideration.

2 Nephi 9:15-16 - Jacob points that after we have become immortal (resurrection), we will appear before God for the final judgement.

Alma 11:44 - Amulek teaches that after the resurrection comes the final judgement.

In the Bible Dictionary under the topic "Degrees of Glory" it states, " Latter-day revelation confirms the teaching of the Bible on these matters and verifies that there are three general categories or glories to which the members of the human family will be assigned in the judgment following their resurrection from the grave."

In Mormon Doctrine under the heading "Judgement" Item #4, McConkie clearly states, "After all men have been resurrected the day of the great final judgment will come."

We know that the first resurrection began right when Christ was resurrected, and will continue until all of the righeous are resurrected sometime after the millenium. After the final judgment, we will be assigned a kingdom where we will dwell eternally. The celestial kingdom doesn't yet exist, since the earth will become the celestial kingdom after it has been renewed and received it's paradiscal glory. Since we know the resurrection has begun, and we know the final judgement hasn't yet occurred because those who will inherit the celestial kingdom have nowhere to go yet, I conclude that the resurrection will come before the final judgment.

There are many judgments, as you point out. Perhaps there is a preliminary judgment before the resurrection. McConkie teaches that it is by our daily acts, our obedience or disobedience, that we develop celestial, terrestrial or telestial bodies which will be restored to us in the resurrection. In that sense, we are our own judges.

I know you reference an article from the Ensign, but I will trust the scriptures, the bible dictionary and the words of one of the Lord's chosen apostles. I feel good about the conclusions I have come to, but in the end, maybe it doesn't matter the timeline of things to come as much as it matters how we live in this life so we are prepared for that final judgment when it does come.

Thank you again for your response. It gave me a good chance to research this topic, and provided some great discussions with my family. Good luck to you in your quest for gospel knowledge.

Renae Shurtz