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CORDELL WROTE:
"It just seems so amazing to me that so many christians have become converted to "BORN AGAINISM". What happened to Christ's commandments. Why did he give them if he did not intend we keep them.

SANDY WROTE:
You are correct, but you cannot keep these commandments unless you are BORN AGAIN.

CORDELL WROTE:
What happened to the 10 commandments. Keeping the Sabbath Day Holy is almost a joke now days. Where is this "EASY PATH TO HEAVEN" thing going to lead us. ROME? They went down the same path before they fell. Immorality? There are more people living together now that are not married than there are that are married. Is there not one Church anywhere that dares to take a stand against immorality and say it is wrong to live to gether when you are not married and if you do, EVEN IF YOU ARE SAVED, you will not go to heaven? I can not see how any one could justify the teachings of the Bible to say that all you have to do is "CONFESS JESUS" and you are saved. And after you are saved, if you sin you do not need to repent of that sin to still go to heaven. What happened to the teaching of REPENTANCE??? YIKES!!! Most of the Bible teachings are about keeping the commandments. I am really confused. REALLY!!!!!

SANDY WROTE:
I agree with what you have said up to a point, although I also believe that John 3:3 & 5 are not understood by most Christians. Many preach that they are born again once they go to the alter and basically pray a prayer of asking Jesus into their life, and walla They're born again, or whatever there magical method is. NOT TRUE!

When one repents, this is when the seed is planted which Mt. 13:18-23 talks about. Only those that receives the seed on good ground become born again. Why? Because it is this one that the seed begins to grow within, and eventually brings forth Christ, which Paul describes in Gal. 4:19. This is the one that first begins to see the kingdom of God (which is "righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Ghost", according to Rom. 14:17, "within", according to Lk. 17:21. Then as Christ is formed within, they begin to not only see but walk in the "kingdom of God". That is what Jesus is saying in John 3 & 5. One walks in this kingdom as they submit to walking in the Spirit and not the flesh. It does not happen by being obedient to the law, but one fulfils the law as Christ takes over that ones life. That is being born again and walking in the kingdom of God, which by the way are the earthly things Jesus Christ came to provide according to John 3:12.

You do not bring forth a child in the natural immediately after the seed is planted, and neither do you bring forth Christ the minute this seed is planted. Yet unfortunately, most are told they do, and are deceived by this lie, along with the many other multitude of lies that satan has conjured up to tell the church world in the last 200 years.

If you are born again, you are at least seeing and will begin to walk in the kingdom according to Rom. 14:17 and Lk. 17:21. If this is not happening in your life, then you are simply not born again.

Agape,
Sandy

Thus saith the Lord, "Call to me and I will answer you and tell you great and unsearchable things." (Jer. 33:3 NIV)